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we'll break in. i'm shepard smith in oxford, mississippi this afternoon. go rebels. beat bama. it's time. cdc says the chance is in-if a advertise mal. they're deer elect in their duties. >> a man on a mission declaring action against ebola over at atlanta's hartsfield international airport. why he says the cdc is asleep at the wheel. and today he's ready to let her rip with us. now we know 100 people are being monitored for the deadly virus and that is just in texas loop.
they all have one thing in common, they all came in contact with this guy. now parents are pulling their kids from class. airlines also scrambling to alert passengers who may have flown with done cap uncan. we're all over it today. casey stegall is outside the hospital. and why an epidemic could be coming in we don't act quickly. and the guy in the had mazmat u what the government isn't telling us. we begin with casey. >> now patient zero as he's been called may have lied on an airport questionnaire.
the cdc created something called an exit form to help deal with the people traveling this and out of the west african country. basically asks people questions like if they have been in contact with the virus. according to the associated press, thomas eric duncan checked no on that questionnaire and now the liberian government says they will prosecute him for that because it was a lie. some of his neighbors say he helped a pregnant with the disease to the hospital just days before he boarded a flight to liberia to brussels and then hopped on a united airlines flight to the united statesnd then from dell husbaulles to da.
four of his family members have been legally ordered to stay in their home and have no visitors until at least october 19th which is w4e7b tis when the boe incubation period is over. cdc saying no one else is showing symptoms. >> thank you, sir. >> they need to held us what child it is. if it's in their class, i'll be it ten times more pissed than i already am. they need to let us know. >> the county is saying you have nothing to worry about. >> but we know how serious this is. >> that's why i want to stay home. >> parents are certainly taking no chances and kids are nervous, too. they're pulling kids from schools where some students may have come in contact with this patient.
the superintendent joins us. what you can tell us? >> we're telling the parents that they need to be assured that they can send their kids for school. none of the five students who were identified as having had in contact with patient zero had any symptoms. and there is zero chance of catching the virus if you're not in contact with the person with symptoms. so while those students have been removed from school in an abundance of caution, the schools are safe. we've also done additional things to keep kids safe at school. we have additional nurses on staff so that if parents or students have questions, they can get answers from a medical professional. we also have additional
custodians on staff to do additional cleaning. this is a community with a lot of different languages. so information is important and that's what we're providing. and 86% of the students showed up to school and staff showed up in the same numbers as they always have. >> but last week at this time, it was more like 96%. >> i'm sorry? >> it was more like 96% last week. >> that's right. usually it's around 96%. so it is down. and we anticipated that. but 86% shows that they understand they cannot contract it at school. >> when you were referring to the four or five students that might have come in contact with the epl bola patient, they were taken out of schools? explain what happened there. >> yes. so according to dallas county
health, they want to monitor closely those students or anybody who has been in contact with patient zero during the time that he had symptoms. >> so these students went back home or are they in area hospitals is this. >> i canyeah, those students ar home. >> and they are being hopbeing at home. their families similarly quarantined? >> they're being monitored by dallas county health and human services. >> you're always in a tough position. but obviously a lot of people are jaded when it comes to official proceed announcements. they were told the odds of anani ebola case popping up was very low and just like they were told
the secret service wasn't a big deal, isis wasn't a big deal. now it's a big deal. so this is part and parcel of the scynical view people are getting of authorities. how do you avoid that some. >> there is a balance there. and the way to strike a right balance is to provide as much information as we possibly can. which is why as soon as we found out about the students, we talked to the parents and staff. obviously you have to slow down and make sure you have accurate information. you don't want to spread any information that is not correct. but that's what we're trying to do. and think if people understand what this virus really is and how you can or can't contract it i think 24they will be more
assured. so the school system and cdc is doing its part. people can read about the virus and understand it and be more and you a assured. we have national experts here in dallas. >> all right. we'll see. thank you very much. back to that dallas hospital and whether it blew it by not following federal guide lines. they lost valuable time. and a doctor of public health joining us. i guess the argument is when mr. duncan was first not admitted into the hospital, in fact released, first signs of what appeared like ebola gsh li-like symptoms, what should they have it up? >> well, it's unfortunate that the patient was discharged home.
not having all the facts, it's sometimes difficult to second guess. we go kndo know the patient was forth right in exposing his contact with another patient that died. and three days later, he boarded a plane and came here. and it's troubles that he didn't share that information with the people at the hospital. namely that he had been exposed. so when we make diagnoses, 90% of is a based on history. but the history has to come from the patient. if the patient is willingly suppressing the truth of the matter, it makes the job more difficult. >> but maybe he felt that since he wasn't exiting any signs, guess spite all we know now, he thought he was in the clear. i guess what happened at the hospital is he did mention that he had been to liberia.
and he was exhibiting stomach cramps. have we widened our definition of what should keep someone in the hospital if they're exiting any signs? >> well, we have to have a high index of suspicion. the cdc has guidelines will place. unfortunately in this case one of the septemb of the events was missed. so going forward we have to chase down every known character and quarantine those individuals to see if they develop symptoms. if one should develop symptoms and presents to the hospital, it would be important for that person who may not have travelled to liberia to say that
they had contact with someone who had ebola. and that would in fact give the professionals an alert. kind of like in it country if someone's having a heart attack or stroke, we call heahead, someone is having chest pain. that person doesn't hit in the waiting room. they go straight back for immediate treatment. we don't want someone with elola sitting in the emergency room. they need to call and say we have a suspected ebola situation and that person would then be taken to an isolation ward and all the personnel dealing with that patient with have on full protective equipment so as to minimize the risk of the infection of the health professionals. >> doctor, thank you. good words of advice. in the meantime, forget president obama. democrats are running with president clinton instead.
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that comment? >> it's sad. she was leading what used to be the finest protection agency in the world. and it's gone completely downhill. it's second rate. no one else's fault but hers and people in the secret service headquarters have lost the confidence of the service prepare and women. and they had shots fired at the white house with the president's family being in there. they have had prostitute issues. and they have it had the white house invaded now devitwice nowt couple weeks. a lot more needed to go down the road. >> colonel, the president expressed confidence in the new guy coming into clean up because it used to be his guy. listen to this. >> the enter recommesbeinterim
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else. it's a shame because if men and women in the secret service, the best in the word, bld, but the organization is second rate. >> do you worry the signals this sends abroad is th? >> it's terrible. you get caught with prostitutes in columbia. they had a maid in the white house find where shots had gone when the daughter of the president was in the white house. these kind of things -- and you see guys running a being cross the lawn. it needs to be cleaned up bringing this other guy in is a mistake. i think they need an outsider to come in with experience and clean it up. >> colonel, thank you very much. this doctor protesting the cdc handling of ebola is next.
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that was the same day the patient was misdiagnosed in dallas. yesterday kay to enter national customs in the atlanta airport. the only question they asked is if it they had tobacco or alcohol. >> that doctor is the family and e.r. trained physician. we did contact the cdc but we have not received a comments. doctor, why did you did this? >> people need to be scared and thank you for having my. people they'd to be scared.od t? >> people need to be scared and
thank you for having my. people they'd to be scared. thi? >> people need to be scared and thank you for having my. people they'd to be scared.this? >> people need to be scared and thank you for having my. people they'd to be scared. his? >> people need to be scared and thank you for having my. people they'd to be scared. there are characteristics that are shared with every other third world developing country. their health care system is in shambles and they just trust the government. yes, we can hcan handle an occal cluster here. the president saying it's not a problem is not what we were expecting. w4e7b m it's just a matter of time when gets to every third world country. when that happen, the imported
cases will happy daily or possibly hourly. there is no advanced nation that can handle that many clusters. >> in this case, now there are indications that he didn't present himself honestly, he did say that he had been to liberia. but that hospital let him go the first time. was that a mistake? >> you know, that's what will happen more and more as flu season comes. it's unfortunate. just the nature of the beast. >> patient comes into the hospital. has flu-like symptoms. stomach pains. which we normally do not
associate with eebola. what lines? >> guidelines should be to isolate anyone exposed to a true ebola patient. we need to have fever center, develop protocol and implement that. >> atlanta is a busy airport. you chose to go there to say what? to say that airlines, that airports, that our transportation, homeland security don't have procedures in place how to screen those coming from the region or what? >> i came through international customs. there is no thermal screening. they didn't ask where i've been. nor any other arriving patients. they asked if i had tobacco or alcohol. that is it.
the cd skrchc is asleep at the . need to be on our toes and tell doctors to be ready for it. not that it's a rare chance of it happening. president obama, thank you. >> do you think that maybe we should just not be allowing flights in from liberia specifically, that it's at the point where the risk just doesn't justify the business? >> that's quite a debate to have. we have to stop the spread to contain this. so that's a debate yet to be had. closing the woborders seems to politically incorrect. just connect the gdots. >> cdc says you're overstating things. what do you say. >> i think they are vastly
understating it and i'm echoing the sentiment of many physicians. i mentioned the meeting we had that the clusters are coming and we are woefully unprepared. if you would ask your local hospital system how many spare they can difference pressure rooms they have, they will tell you we rarely have spare negative pressure rooms available. and that speaks volumes about how prepared we really are. >> have you talked, doctor, to anyone at the cdc? >> no, not recently. in jackson hole last month, i did speak where an official rather extensively. and that skra shagentleman shar
sentime sentiments. >> shared your sentiments and concerns? >> yes. once we will be regular lating imports clusters that will be tough to contain. >> so when i talk to officials who say all the more reason to prevent flights from liberia, what do you think of that? >> it's craziness. we need to screen the guys coming from west africa. but person to person in the united states, it's a paradigm shift. >> how will it be transmitted? if it can't be airborne, what do we have to worry about? >> ask the first doctor who came to atlanta. he followed every precaution
that he can. if you shake bd thats like this, you're dead meat. >> practiwhat about the hundred people that live come in contact with mr. duncan. either when he was on that flight going into brussels or later transfer to go washington, d.c.. or later to dallas, are any of them in danger? >> there is a little disagreement and basic consensus was we would not want to sit next to a patient with ebola. >> we're just learning that -- >> if the guy is coughing up blood, that's highly contagious. >> we're getting word that three more students have been taken out of texas area schools. that brings the title to eight who might or might not have had contact with mr. duncan. we talked to the texas
superintendent of the school system who said this is limited, that attendance is still high, 86%. what would you he witell those parents in that school district? >> it's tough. if they have the ebola, 50% chance of survival and pray. otherwise just try to practice clean hygiene and hope for the best. i would also tell the american public that these scenarios l. will be repeated over and over. we're woefully underprepared. it's time to develop procedures and implement them. we've done the locally to prepare. >> doctor, thank you very much. good seeing you. so how do you feel about
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happening in sierra leone and liberia, where are all the precautions? >> we're not ready for it. >> we have nothing in place. even in tooepexas, all those children, what would you do if that was your child? he said, oh, wash their hands and be sanitary and wish them luck. is that all really we have in our country? head of the cdc said the same thing. tom frieden said wash your hands and you'll be fine. you have so many people in this country with compromised immune systems already. they should be talking about prevention, building the immune system which there are things that people with do to help
tight off better if you get exposed. >> you have a home in texas. >> yes. >> i know your son is home school. but if you were in that class area school district, now eight students have been removed who might or might not have had exposure to mr. duncan, what would you do if you were there? would you let them go to school? >> absolutely i wouldn't, no. because of the potential. since any mom that has a lot mom with more information listen to the superintendensuperintendent. even hospitals right now complaican't
control staff infections and mrsa. more people die from those daily in this country and we have now ebola here? >> so you think this goes beyond -- but there are vaccines being worked on. but you have a problem with vaccines. >> some could work, but we'll just rely on one day when that vaccine comes out and how longs that it been tested and does it work and is it just a one size fits all some. >> we know about this one that it doesn't work all the time. it just -- >> again, any tool -- >> are things a lot worse than we're being told? >> i heard you say before that this isn't airborne, so what do we have to worry about. is that a fact? i don't think minunip anyone ca
say -- >> cdc is saying. but other doctors are saying that it could mutate, but it isn't at that stage yet. >> i believe that just like dr. gottlieb said this morning they're being coy with those words airborne. even dr. gottlieb said someone breathes on you or from the saliva or sneezing or coughing. i have like a little cut. what if i had it and i happen to shake your hand or touch you. >> why did you shake my happened? >> but i didn't wipe my eye. the point is this is very serious, will couthis could be serious. where are all these precautions? how does someone from liberia in
a was with people that died of elola get on a plane and come to this country? >> or tell someone that he was in liberia and let him go. >> exposing a whole population. >> thank you very much. dr. gottlieb will update us and we are getting indications from the ground zero patient that he had been discovered vomiting outside his home and that raises the question how close did anyone get to that. these are the issues that come up in the middle of something like this. you do a lot of things great.
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a 10-year-old rhode island girl, the first u.s. child to die from the severe respiratory virus, enterovirus d-68. that's now in more than 40 states. scott gottlieb on what we can do to keep our kids safe. just as we were getting used to this ebola thing, now this comes up. which do you worry about now, doctor? >> right now you worry about this because this is epidemic in the united states. i think the longer term risk is obviously with ebola if we see continued spread in the u.s. and in africa because then we run the risks of having clusters of outbreaks in the u.s. i'm quite sure the cdc and public health officials will contain that's going on in dallas but down the road we could see outbreaks much bigner scope. >> doctor, what did you make of what this doctor was saying and pulling a stunt, but to make the point that we're not being told how dangerous and how growing a threat this is, this ebola thing is? >> right. i think he's right. i listened to the interview.
i think there's an extreme risk that this continues to spread at the pace it is in africa and get to hundreds of thousands of infections and you won't be able to contain this to that continent and it will spread to other countries. >> how will it spread? >> through transportation. but you won't see just a single case pop up. what you're going to see is clusters of infections in multiple cities. it could quickly overwhelm our systems, especially if it coincides with flu season and people presenting with flu and ebola and doctors are trying to err on the side of precaution and test a lot people. you need special facilities to do the testing for ebola and sending a lot of samples could overwhelm the facilities doing the testing. >> doctor, i want to go through a series of events of possibilities and get your thoughts on what to make of it. i know people have not yet eaten dinner. one indication is that this ebola patient, mr. duncan, had vomited outside his apartment building, so i'm going to be
blunt with you and maybe crass. someone steps in that vomit. what? >> they can contract ebola from that. it will survive in that fluid for an extended period of time. and he seems to have been highly contagious. it's probably going to be the case that there will be other cases of ebola related to his infection. now, again, the public health officials will contain this, i believe, from becoming wider spread from this single case but there might be other infections that directly result from this individual. >> all right. so then they -- someone steps in that puke, goes back home, drags it through the home. is everyone in that home potentially going to get this? >> the virus can survive on surfaces for an extended period of time from body secretions. so there is a risk related to, you know, that vomited fluid, absolutely. >> so now we have eight known
children in this texas area school district who might have had contact with mr. duncan and the school thought the better part of valor is to take them out of the school. it started with four, then five, now eight. what is done with these kids? are they supervised, quarantined at home? what should be done? >> well, from what we understand, they're being watched at home by health officials. they're not being put in a very strict quarantine right now. they're probably at fairly low risk butt some risk of contracting the illness. it seems to be low based on the public press reports. but these 100 people that they have traced to this individual who had the infection, they're being watched very closely. if they come down with signs and symptoms of ebola, you can rest assured they'll be put in isolation very quickly. >> there are a number of u.s. legislators who are saying to ban travel to that region, from that region, what do you say? >> probably counterproductive
because it's going to further destabilize the region and make it harder to get health officials into that region. the reality is if people want to get out of that region, especially if they want to get to a western country to seek western medical care, they'll find other ways to do it. people have the means to cross the border and fly out of another airport. what we need to do is prevent the spread in africa. that's where the focus really needs to be. this is at a tipping point in that region where we won't be able to control it with conventional means and will need a drug or vaccine. >> we have a potential vaccine. the issue is whether we have enough of it, right? >> and i think the bigger issue is whether or not we're doing enough right now to accelerate development of a drug or vaccine. i would argue we are not. i think world regulatory authorities need to form a task force to approve for use these products. >> dr. gottlieb, thank you. very good seeing you again. this is a fast-moving story as you can obviously see. tonight on fox business network at 8:00 p.m. we'll expand on
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